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James Toney Proves Why Boxers Should Stay Out of the UFC

by Robert Littal | Posted on Sunday, August 29th, 2010

The #1 goal for a boxer:

NOT TO GET KNOCKED OUT

When a boxer gets knocked down what does his corner yell at  him?

“GET UP!!!!!!!”

Most boxers have been boxing since their youth and have been trained for years to stay off the ground.  That is the main reason that I don’t believe any boxer could ever succeed in the UFC.

UFC guys have trained for years in striking, kicks, take downs, submissions and multiple forms of martial arts.  Boxers are taught to hit and how not to get hit.

Granted James Toney (who looked like Damon Wayans in the “Great White Hype” when he entered the ring) is nowhere near his prime and it was obvious he was just doing this for a paycheck, but he had no business in the cage with Randy Couture.

I know that UFC does these things for ratings and attention, but if they want to break into the mainstream (they are very close) they need to stop with the sideshow acts and concentrate their promotional skills on their talented guys like Frankie Eager.

As for Toney who I don’t believe connected with one punch and was on the ground getting his brains beat in 15 seconds into the bout, I hope the check clears on Monday.

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  1. @BxBomber12 says:

    Statement 1: "Most boxers have been boxing since their youth and have been trained for years to stay off the ground. That is the main reason that I don’t believe any boxer could ever succeed in the UFC."

    In the words of Lee Corso, "Not so fast my friend."

    If you were to sample any random 100 MMA Heavyweight fights want to guess how most end? With a punch connecting while both fighters were on feet, BOXING. The heavyweight division is about 90% boxing skills. Most guys want to end fight as quick as possible and what better way than a quick hook or uppercut on the screws. So Toney does have a chance in Heavyweight Division. Thing is any MMA fighter who dares go punch for punch with Toney is playing with fire and I guarantee will lose. So all fighters will attack him on ground. He fought Randy, arguable the greatest fighter of all time who used his skill to exploit his weakness to surgical precision. If Toney had any semblance of ground skills to not get taken down so easily he would be a problem. Hell, Kimbo, a street fighter, during his time in UFC showed flashes of being decent fighter. If Toney was younger and was more committed to MMA he would have had a shot. Of course, "fighting" like "boxing" is a skill thats acquired through time and practice. Kimbo and Toney were too old in the game to have a legit shot at making impact. If a good young boxer(25-30) realizes boxing has no future and makes jump to MMA and has a good camp to work with; I dont doubt he would do well. So saying that no boxer could ever succeed in MMA while not completely false, its not completely true, especially in heavyweight division…

    2)"UFC guys have trained for years in striking, kicks, take downs, submissions and multiple forms of martial arts. Boxers are taught to hit and how not to get hit."

    -You do realize you make boxers seem like marsh-mellows over an open flame soft…Jus saying…

    3)"I know that UFC does these things for ratings and attention, but if they want to break into the mainstream (they are very close) they need to stop with the sideshow acts and concentrate their promotional skills on their talented guys like Frankie Eager."

    -Besides this fight there really hasn't been another "sideshow" fight. If there has been another sideshow fight, let me know..

    As for breaking into mainstream? I think its safe to say they have two feet pretty much into mainstream's doorway. UFC has: video games, reality shows, LIVE FREE events, and pay per view matches which you never feel cheated on because fighters actually fight in competitive fights. No one can deny that every fight shown is good. Dont forget how many fighters are getting into movies now and many professional athletes are using MMA for training purposes…

    What does boxing have? A pay per view every 3 months with a "marquee" fighter that when fight is over we feel we haven't seen the best product boxing could offer. What else does boxing have besides Mayweather talking about his money and how he is the greatest(sideye)? So how Mainstream is it?

    One of the last nails in the coffin for boxing will be Pacman/Mayweather fight whether it happens or not. If it doesn't happen the remaining loyal fans to boxing will grow apathy since best fighters didnt ever fight. If it does happen, besides a rematch can any other fight garner that much hype to demand attention and pay per view dollars? Maybe if Klitschko brothers fight but I doubt it'll happen. So yea, No more big money fights = no more "boxing". I doubt even a second coming of Ali/Frazier could help boxing survive as we know it.

    I hate to beat dead horse but bottom line: Boxing is dying and MMA is about to get into it's prime.

    RESPECT TO JAMES TONEY for getting into ring with professional fighter and kudos to Randy for not messing Toney up. He could have done some serious damage to Toney if he wanted to….

    I'm pretty sure there will be a boxer who who will crossover to MMA and be decent but i'll be more excited if a MMA fighter goes into Boxing and dominates. I have a perfect fight in mind. Lets start up the campaign for Couture vs Holyfield. Two over the hill fighters who could use the extra payday, especially Holyfield, haha

    BTW, you misspelled Edgar as EAGER, just noticed it..

  2. themadchuck says:

    james toney sucks.

  3. Damon says:

    Well, the only reason this fight was made is because Toney flew around country chasin White callin him a pussy for not putting the fight on lol.

  4. Chazaraz says:

    Putting Toney against any other heavyweight could have lead to Toney sustaining some serious injury. At least Randy had no chance of threatening on his feet and is not likely to pull off a career-ending, ligament-tearing joint lock.

    • A.C says:

      But Randy Couture is a title contender and a legend. He's the last person I would want to face. Why couldn't Dana White pair Toney up with another soup can?

  5. Chazaraz says:

    Randy may be a legend, but he hasn't had a significant victory against a top competitor since 2007. He is a paper contender at best, and could not hang with the strikers at the top of 205 or the wrestlers at the top of heavyweight. Randy was the best possible fight for Toney, anyone else could have seriously hurt him.

    Even at the bottom of the division with guys like Matt Mitrione or Chris Tuchsherer, you have guys that are way more in shape than Toney and can either badly knock him out or easily take him down and beat him up or submit him.

    Toney's style of boxing is horrible for MMA to begin with, and he's barely trained wrestling and jiu-jitsu. The only guys Toney could possibly have success against are Pat Barry or Antoni Hardonk, and both guys are world class kickboxers who would wreck Toney's legs and give him a severe head kick concussion.

    The UFC could always bring in some local fighter to go against Toney, but that's just a waste of what little value Toney's name has.

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