Kyrie Irving’s abilities on the basketball court are unparalleled. His thoughts about the larger world and science are debatable. Kyrie recently appeared on the Road Trippin’ podcast with teammates Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye and doubled down on his belief that the earth is indeed flat. He also delved into the dream state and said he can control his dreams and communicate with people through his dreams. Here is the transcript of Kyrie’s comments, courtesy of CBS Sports’ James Herbert, about the ability to control his dreams and how he used a recent dream to say goodbye to ex teammate Jordan McRae:
So I’m listening to this audio book. It’s from Jiddu Krishnamurti and David Bohm and they’re talking and it’s just a one-on-one talk. They’re talking about intimacy, they’re talking about just freedom of thought. We’re talking about being able to dig deep down and be able to free your mind no matter what. And the conversations are crazy. So I’m listening to it. I turn off the TV. I don’t watch TV anymore when I take naps ‘cause I’m listening. I’m listening. So while I’m awake, or not while I’m awake, while I’m sleeping, there’s this moment where I’m like, ‘ah, man I feel like I want to get up right now, but I can’t.’ So I felt like I was looking at myself sleep, but I was sleeping on my stomach and my hands were back. I never really sleep on my stomach, but I had to change my style I was sleeping at, so I started sleeping on my stomach.
I kept seeing, like, I kept hearing the door and I kept seeing somebody and I kept feeling something go over me, like, over my back. And I’m like, ‘I can’t wake up, I can’t wake up,’ but I’m so conscious of what’s going on, like, I know what’s going on. But I’m, like, very, very conscious, but the thing about it is, I don’t know if you guys have the same thing, but I can control my dreams. Like before when I was younger, when there would be like, OK, you would get into like a chase with somebody or you would get into a fight with somebody or you were doing something with your family members, I’m very conscious of my dreams and what’s going on and I can control them. So while I’m conscious, I’m still, I’m not awake, I’m in a deep sleep, but I’m watching myself and I feel like Jordan is trying to say goodbye.
So like I’m like ‘damn, would the cleaning lady let him in? Would somebody let him in?’” Irving said. So I kept hearing the door open, but I still can’t wake up. So I’m still feeling a presence over me. I’m still feeling a presence. But I’m not scared, I’m not scared, I’m not nervous, I’m not fearful of it. I’m just like, ‘yo, wake up.’ So I wake up, and I’m still so tired, and I wake up and I kind of yell it. I’m like, ‘I love you, bro!’ I’m like, ‘I love you bro!’ And nobody’s in the room. Like, but I’m waking up and I’m telling myself, tell him one more time that you love him. Tell him one more time. Like, I’m sleeping, I’m so conscious of what’s going on, I’m like, ‘wake up, tell him one more time.’ And I finally woke up and I was like in this, I was frozen, but when I woke up, I was like, ‘I love you, bro!’
Ok that is a lot to unpack. The mind (both the conscious and subconscious) is the most powerful tool on the planet. Think about that statement. Every modern marvel, great construction of the past, unfathomable achievement began as an idea inside someone’s mind and then a series of steps and actions produced the result. So in no way should you dismiss Kyrie and the power of dreams, as they indeed derive from the mind. Read Freud and Hegel if you want some accessible information on this.
However what Kyrie is doing here is a bit dangerous, much like his belief in the flat earth theory. Flat earth theory is something that many people disagree with but dreams are a bit more accessible and common to a majority. People that may have dismissed Kyrie before because of flat earth may now have pause because they might have experienced something similar in a dream.
If he truly wants to start discourse over important topics and principles they need to be extremely high level conversations and done with the requisite amount of intellectual curiosity. Kyrie is clearly intellectually curios but making these statements haphazardly or in a forum where proper context is not provided is dangerous. This is the problem we have today in our society with people believing fake news, blatant lies and spreading them like it’s gospel. Someone is going to hear that Kyrie communicated with an ex teammate through a dream and the next thing you know Kyrie is Haley Joel Osment in The Sixth Sense seeing dead people.
It does not matter whether or not you believe Kyrie. The issue he is addressing is extremely interesting but deserves to be approached with nuance, perspective and the proper level of intellectual curiosity.