Police Release String of Text Messages Between Steve McNair & Sahel Kazemi
A couple of things before we get to the text messages. CBS reported that Miss Kazemi had a little more than $2500 in the bank at the time of the murders. The police have confirmed that Miss Kazemi asked McNair to transfer $2000 in her account to help her pay some bills.
Also in the police report it was reported McNair had another girlfriend in Nashville Leah Ignagn and it is inferred that Miss Kazemi had found out about her and possibly could have been hanging out around Miss Ignagn home.
The police seem to think that this supports their theory that Miss Kazemi was spiraling out of control but I have another take on these new developments.
I have a common sense question. If I am stressed about money and paying bills, then someone gives me $2000 to take care of those problems why would I continue to be stressed?
Secondly if I was truly suicidal why would I care if my bills got paid at all? If anything I thinks this supports my contention that she was thinking very clearly.
As far as the second girlfriend, if every woman who found out their boyfriend had a girl on the side went out and murdered their boyfriend the male population would also be extinct. If she did find out, it appears to me she was just checking out the competition which is normal where I come from.
Here are the text messages sent hours before the murders. Read them over and then I will give my thoughts.
Below is the content of text message records police subpoenaed from McNair’s cellphone carrier. The following texts were received by McNair’s phone on July 3. Interviews with friends of McNair’s confirmed that he was actually out at several Nashville bars in the evening hours during this conversation.
Kazemi, 4:04 p.m.: Baby I have to be w u 2nite. I dnt care where
Kazemi, 4:16 p.m.Tell me u gonna be w me
Kazemi, 8:34 p.m.: baby where u gonna be at when I get off
McNair, 8:50 p.m.: I’m at home baby what time u get off
Kazemi, 8:51 p.m.: round 11
Kazemi, 9:10 p.m.: where u gonna be at baby
McNair, 9:15 p.m.: at home til the kids fall asleep
Kazemi, 9:18 p.m.: k ill call when I get off
Kazemi, 10:23 p.m.: do u wanna get out n drink
McNair, 10:35 p.m.: Probably not baby having trouble with the kids getting to sleep
Kazemi, 10:45 p.m.: k im going to the condo in a min
McNair, 10:59 p.m.: ok
Kazemi, 11:28 p.m.: they asleep babe
McNair, 11:34 p.m.: they are on the way
McNair, 12:38 a.m.: On my way
Kazemi, 12:38 a.m.: k
Kazemi, 12:48 a.m.: u want me to open the gate
McNair, 12:52 a.m. (sent twice): No open the front door
Kazemi, 1:14 a.m.: its open
Kazemi, 2:23 a.m.: im going to the store*
Investigators say the last text message appears out of sequence, and it was received by McNair’s phone at 2:23 a.m. but on Kazemi’s phone, there was no time stamp on the message.
For some reason the investigators thinks this strengthen their case, but personally I could pull out my phone right now and show you a similar conversation.
McNair lying about his location is something men do on a daily if not hourly basis. A young lady wanting to see her ex football star boyfriend who just gave her $2000 isn’t unusual.
The only way the police theory works is if she just snapped before she had a chance to think of consequences, but I don’t believe that because when people snap like that it is normally in the heat of the moment not when someone is sleeping on the couch like McNair was.
Also people who snap shoot quickly:
POW! POW! POW!
They don’t take the time to shoot someone in the head, wait and then go shoot them in the other side of the head after they are dead.
If anything this leads to more questions than answers.
*UPDATE*
The CBS video sheds even more light on the horrible investigation but the Nashville Police Department.
The Nashville PD failed to release information that Miss Kazemi and the person she purchased the gun from Adrian Gilliam Jr was in constant contact for days before the murder and that in fact he was the last person she spoke with.
The police had people believing that when she bought the gun from him it was the first time they had ever met.
This case is a sham and I hope the real truth comes out because I think the wrong person is being blamed.
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"I have a common sense question. If I am stressed about money and paying bills, then someone gives me $2000 to take care of those problems why would I continue to be stressed?"
Because $2000 is a temporary fix. If she is paying $1000 in rent and $800 on a car note each month, that doesn't leave a of money left over for anything else. Utilities, Insurance, Cell phone, food, gas, these things add up and $2000 is not enough for her to be out of the woods. That is why she was selling all of her stuff on Craigslist. Instead of looking at the little bits of the case that you want too see, you should really try to take a look at the whole case.
oh sure the last message was delayed! lol that blows the hole out of their story. why weren't the phone records of Ali the driver who dropped McNair off not requested to verify what time he called a cab to come and get him. Why did Neely call a judge Mooreland and why does the video only show Gaddy going into the apartment and not neely with gaddy as Metro's new report claims? Why were phone records not requested for the judge, gaddy and neely?IMO Guilliam was not the seller of the gun he was the dope dealer, was arrested June 30th and appears that metro has made him their patsy. Remember Norfleet tipped the media off about the dui arrests which I beat a dollar got back to Mechelle and I'm sure Gaddy who was already upset with Steve did not take to kindly to this!This was a hit no doubt this young girl did not kill McNair them herself. More than likely McNair was killed when she went to the store, she came back and found him was crying in his lap when she was shot in the temple! A murderer is free in Nashville and being protected by Metro and who knows who else.
I like how the important texts are left out like Steve wondering why he can't get ahold of Sahel . The night/morning Leah Ignagni claims Steve was with her.
July 3, 2 :03 a .m .
Kazemi: u love me
July 3, 2 :04 a .m .
McNair : I love u baby
July 3, 2 :09 a .m.
Kazemi : Im gonna have all of u soon
July 3, 2 :24 a .m.
McNair: Yes u will
July 3, 8 :14 a .m.
McNair: Hey are u up
9 :56 a .m.
Kazemi : hi baby
9 :56 a .m.
McNair : Where are you
9 :57 a .m.
Kazemi : home
9 :58 a .m.
McNair: Why your phone been off
9 :59 a .m .
Kazemi : Im at the store tryin to fix it
10 a .m.
McNair : Did u stay at the condo because I came by there this morning
July 3, 2 :03 a .m .
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I'm not saying I know it was a murder-suicide, because even after all of this I'm still not sure. But it seems most people don't realize how fragile the human psyche is. A person doesn't have to be crazy their whole life or for an extended period of time to snap. Most of the time it happens, its a spur of the moment deal and they panic. It only takes one bad situation at the right time for someone to go off the handle. And as for people close to her not knowing, that's nothing new. Ppl closest to Bundy didn't know he was kidnapping, raping, killing and a necrophiliac. People closest to Gacy didn't know he was raping young boys, killing and burying them under his house. More often than not the people closest to you are the last to find out.
My friend dropped out school and was homeless for three weeks. Nobody close to him knew about it until I had happen to drive past him on the street. I had a friend that was a stripper for a year, nobody close to her knew about it. One of my roommates checked himself into a drug rehab for two months during the Summer. He told me he had a short internship in D.C. I didn't even know he had a habit. Neither did any of his friends or family. My point is often, the family and friends are the last ones to know. But like I said I'm not sure it is a murder-suicide.
also note in Metro's 14 page report that took them 3 months to put together all names but the name of who sold Guilliam the gun are listed. They still refer to MP and DP when talking about this supposed gun sale.
Get to work and find out the truth because this is stinking worse then before they released the 14page report. Seriously they claimed 8 days after the murder the gun was purchased July 2 during those 2 hours she was missing from work. Now that that is blown apart and they even admit it when did this gun sale take place??
We knew it did not take place when they claimed because of Sahel's craiglist posting conflicted with Metro's time.
Also who was at Sahel's house the morning of July 4th that took things out of her apartment???????? Find them and you find who was behind this hit!
I agree Damon but in this case the supposed facts don't add up and never have.
Neely's story alone is the biggest bunch of bull I have ever heard and does not jive with the video survillence that shows ONLY gaddy going into the apartment.
You find folks dead claim you don't know who they are and you call a Judge??? Then you leave the scene??? stinky stinky!
That's why I say I'm sure not if it was a murder-suicide. There's a lot of info flying around and the PD didn't show their best effort on this case. I admit all of that is fishy, but you have a girl everybody is trying to paint as happy go lucky who is stalking his other side chick and asking for extra money. $2000 is not a lot of money and with her bills, she would have burned it up quickly. She wasn't as stable and she was having financial difficulty. You don't start selling all your stuff just because. You don't stalk your bf's other sidechick if you feel secure. You don't ask for money when your financials are okay. Me personally I believe the ex-bf knows more than what he shows.
With McNair since he was lying down when he got killed, he either didn't know the person was in the place or he knew the person that was there. And whoever shot him took their time.
Just updated the story with some more thoughts
If you are so smart and have all this insider information, then tell us who did it. The truth is that you can't. The truth is that you can't stand to see a black sports figure shot by a 20 y/o girl. You keep saying that you think something is fishy but you never have any of your own ideas. Every time something about this story comes up you have a "see I told you so" post, but you never told us anything. Besides all of this "new evidence" is circumstantial. None of it puts anybody else in the condo or pulling the trigger.
Well Mr. Anonymous I sort of solved the crime in July..lol..____http://blacksportsonline.com/index/2009/07/who-re… is ok to say your name. I am not going to come after you or anything. Secondly I never said anything about race. You just making up stuff
You haven't solved a damn thing. No one is even talking about him. That is just some crazy idea that you came up with. None of this "new evidence" has anything to do with him. Also as long as you keep call yourself a "BonaFide Sports Expert" I will continue to call myself Anonymous.
One more thing, ever article you ever write will have a racial undertone whether you want it or not because you named your site Black Sports Online. If there was a White Sports Online you would feel the same thing.
There isn't any racial overtones. You are the one that seems to have the racial issue because you are the one bringing it into the discussion. Not me. Your feelings about the race issue is coming in clearly not because of the site but because of your feelings.
When you ready to stop using "keyboard courage" then you can post another comment and show yourself.
There isn't any racial overtones. You are the one that seems to have the racial issue because you are the one bringing it into the discussion. Not me. Your feelings about the race issue is coming in clearly not because of the site but because of your feelings.____When you ready to stop using "keyboard courage" then you can post another comment and show yourself.
What the hell are you talking about? "Keyboard Courage"? No matter what I told you regarding who I am, you have no way to prove or disprove it. If my screen name was Dave, Eugene, Lucy, Habeeb, DaffyDuck or even SteveMcNair, it doesn't matter because I would still be just as anonymous as I am now. The fact is that there is no physical evidence to support your claim that Norfleet killed anybody.
Regarding the racial aspect, the minute you classify something as being white or black, people are going to think it is racist to a degree. By name alone you have done this whether or not you want to admit it. It works with any business.
Did you actually think you could ban me by blocking my IP address. That is childish, petty and proof that you know I am right. Now back to the topic at hand.
What the hell are you talking about? "Keyboard Courage"? No matter what I told you regarding who I am, you have no way to prove or disprove it. If my screen name was Dave, Eugene, Lucy, Habeeb, DaffyDuck or even SteveMcNair, it doesn't matter because I would still be just as anonymous as I am now. The fact is that there is no physical evidence to support your claim that Norfleet killed anybody.
Regarding the racial issue, the minute you label something black or white, people are going to see racism to a certain degree whether you agree with it or not.
blksportsonline this new info about the how much contact Sahel had with Gilliam is why I believe he was her dope dealer not the guy who sold her the gun. He also was arrested June 30th I believe for a traffic stop. Why were Gilliams phone records not pulled????????
His initial plead on the gun charges was no guilty and he has since changed it to guilty.
There are some major players in this case the man that ownes the condo Steve and Neely was renting is a Metro Trustee. Neely calls Judge Mooreland before 9/11, someone shows up at Sahel's that morning and takes things out of her apartment and the police have not even investigated this. A blonde girl hours before the murders confronted Steve at the Blue Moon and said her boyfriend was going to kill him because he slipped her a roofie a year ago. something sure does stink!
What the hell are you talking about? "Keyboard Courage"? No matter what I told you regarding who I am, you have no way to prove or disprove it. If my screen name was Dave, Eugene, Lucy, Habeeb, DaffyDuck or even SteveMcNair, it doesn't matter because I would still be just as anonymous as I am now. The fact is that there is no physical evidence to support your claim that Norfleet killed anybody.
Oh, also I liked how you tried to ban me and failed at that as well.
Regarding the racial issue, the minute you label something black or white, people are going to see racism to a certain degree whether you agree with it or not.
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interesting gaddy and cuz ray fightin mechelle’s wishes. they LOSE and deserve a microscopic look at their lives especially the last few weeks of Steve’s life.
Judge authorizes sale of McNair’s restaurant
http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?S=11328893
Remember Gilliam arrived in Nashville by way of the Nashville Dreams Woman's FOOTBALL team. He found him a sweetie from the team when they were playing in FL and the team was nice enough to let him ride with to Nash to begin his new life.
I'm still trying to figure out why they haven't released the surveillance footage from BOTH cameras at the condo. You can stand on the street and see both of them which had different angles to Mac's condo. (Lea Avenue intersects with 2nd Avenue South and also Rutledge Avenue) The area is simply too wide open for someone to not have seen ANYTHING with all the traffic in that area. What you also aren't hearing is that there were 2 different entrances into the condo, but the back entrance would not be covered by the aforementioned cameras near the entrance (Google 105 Lea Avenue – Nashville, TN) and you'll get a small idea of what I mean).
As for the issue with the last text message, I can honestly say it could go both ways. I've had delayed text messages and messages without timestamps (which usually occur when you are not on a native tower).
Honestly they need to get the text message records from every central figure in this case and figure out who said/planned anything in the days before the murder. What you are seeing is either incompetence and laziness from the Metro (Nashville) PD or an outright withholding of facts…there's no gray area in that regard. Luckily CBS is forcing the truth to come out slowly but surely. And when it's all said and done, I believe we're going to hear a name that we haven't heard associated with this case.
NOT GUILTY plea until they brow beat him for a few months
Gilliam pleads not guilty to selling gun in Steve McNair case
Associated Press
Updated Friday, August 21, 2009
NASHVILLE — A convicted murderer pleaded not guilty today to selling the gun that was used to kill ex-NFL quarterback Steve McNair.
Adrian Gilliam of La Vergne, Tenn., was charged last month with being a convicted felon in possession of a firearm. According to court documents, he admitted selling a loaded 9 mm Bryco/Jennings semiautomatic pistol for $100 to Sahel Kazemi. Nashville police said the woman used the weapon to kill McNair and herself on July 4.
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of course the Tennessean scrubbed their copy too bad it's still in cache!
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why are you deleting posts?
wtf???
screw you then asshole
the stellar judge moreland.
whats a matter blkonline mad cause my post don't support keith as the murderer? pitiful actions by you on this blog.
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Two Judges Reprimanded, Third Awaits Fate
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Why u deleting posts? Metro coverup is not a troll so much for honest debate at this site
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To everyone — WE DO NEED to SOLVE THIS MYSTERY. PERIOD.____Biggie-Tupac- Run Master J of Run DMC all NOT SOLVED.____So now, this Steve McNair case has more HOLES in it, than swiss cheese – and Anonymous is all upset and trying to make it a "Black Thing". Well it's not. What it is a JUSTICE THING and a VALUE THING. How many more high profile people have to die before we sayu – find the person who did it? ____Because if they won't or can't find the pepetrators on a HIGH PROFILE case — you know they AIN'T (that's right ain't) gonna try to look for the KILLER on a everyday Joe case.____THIS CASE NEEDS TO BE SOLVED — there are apparrent inconsistencies — find out who did this professional hit.
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